Yuantian

"What? This!"

"Biao Huo? Silver Moon?" Emperor Nanguang's expression changed drastically, and he stared at the white-robed figure at the end of the void.

In his heart, he was completely frightened.

It’s so outrageous.

Being so far apart, it was obvious that he would immediately collect the two Holy Saints into the Cave Heaven Magical Treasure, but the Holy Saint of Mingjian still killed the two Holy Saints with just one thought.

To know.

Biaohuo Holy Saint and Silver Moon Holy Saint are both at the level of Jiuyou Holy Saint in terms of strength. They both have the peak strength of the Holy Saint. It stands to reason that even if they face the attack of the Emperor of Heaven, they can withstand it for a while.

But was killed instantly by a thought?

"Such power is even more terrifying than the last battle outside Chaos Ruins." Many thoughts passed through Emperor Nanguang's mind: "Could it be that he has really reached the level of Empress Nuwa?"

Emperor Nanguang had never seen Nuwa, but when he thought about it, he killed two powerful men at the peak of the Holy Saint.

Empress Nuwa, that’s all.

"Executing the first level of "Destroy the Heart" to kill two powerful men at the peak of the Holy Saint was so reluctant that it took up 20% of the effort." Wu Yuan's dharma body looked at it from a distance, not very satisfied in his heart.

Destroy your heart!

This is what Wu Yuan has learned over the years about the origin of the Samsara Sword, especially the secret technique of divine killing created by combining the three techniques of "Tianya" with the third technique of "Jie Destruction".

Destroy one's own mind, and even destroy the enemy's mind.

In terms of absolute height, the unique skill of "Destroying the Heart" is not as good as the inheritance left by Empress Nuwa, let alone comparable to "Tianya", but it is the most suitable for Wu Yuan himself.

The ones that fit together are the strongest.

In Wu Yuan's conception, the secret skill "Destroying the Heart" should have three levels.

The first level is to kill the enemy's soul at the cost of 10% of your mental energy.

The second level is to try to kill the enemy's soul at the cost of 50% of the mental energy. This level is the most powerful trick that Wu Yuan had when he was refining his Qi, the True Saint. It was also the same trick when he killed Dongyue Saint Ancestor.

However, in his conception, the first two levels can only be regarded as conventional means.

Only the last level, the third level, is the final killing move.

"A single blow that combines all aspects of the Dream Universe, Divine Spirit, Magic Power, Eternal Heart... and uses up all of his life." Wu Yuan thought silently in his heart.

This is what he created after learning from "Tianya" and combining it with his own "Heart of Dreams".

It also truly proves the saying - destroy one's own mind and destroy the enemy's mind.

At the cost of his own life, he burned everything, and the power of the most powerful killing move he unleashed was bound to shake the world.

This is Wu Yuan's unique skill, which he conceived with the Emperor of Heaven as his imaginary enemy.

only.

He has only been studying the secret skill of "Destroying the Heart" for a short period of time. In addition, it is too difficult to combine the Dream Universe, Divine Soul, Magic Power, Eternal Heart and many other aspects and attack them all in an instant.

No one has ever achieved it.

Therefore, so far, Wu Yuan has only created the first two levels of "Destroy the Heart", and the third level is still being deduced, and it is still far away from the final completion.

But even so.

After billions of years of cultivation, the overall strength of Wu Yuan's Qi Refining Master is still far beyond that of the past. At least the "Destroying Heart" move can fully unleash the power of the Samsara Sword.

The first level of "Destroy" consumes 10% of one's mental effort, and its power is comparable to the strongest blow that severely damaged Dongyue Saint Ancestor outside the Chaos Ruins.

Compared with Nuwa Empress, although it is still inferior, it is very close.

After all, the Samsara Sword is the best at killing people in dreams.

"It's true that my "Heart Dream Reincarnation" is a little weaker." Wu Yuan thought to himself: "If it were Nuwa Empress, she could at least sink Emperor Nanguang a little bit just now."

But Wu Yuan was unable to shake Emperor Nanguang's spiritual origin.

Whoosh!

Emperor Nanguang was completely frightened and did not dare to fight for the treasures left by the two saints, because Wu Yuan's body-refining deity had already rushed over at lightning speed, and his speed was extremely fast.

The sword light is even more intense!

"Blood light."

Emperor Nanguang roared and waved the divine sword in his hand again, but this time he no longer attacked, but defended with all his strength, resisting the sword light cast by Wu Yuan's body-refining deity.

"Peng~ Bang! Bang!"

The swords collided, the power of Ji Dao circulated, the terrifying aftermath of the battle dispersed, and Emperor Nanguang was knocked upside down again.

However, he was not injured at all despite his full defense.

"boom!"

Wu Yuan's body-refining deity, however, was unyielding and attacked crazily. The long knife in his hand whizzed and shot through like rays of light penetrating the void.

at this time.

"Destroy your heart!"

Wu Yuan's eyes became dark again, and there was a divine sword unsheathed in his eyes.

Samsara Sword - the first level of heart-destroying sword.

"ah!"

Emperor Nanguang only felt a terrifying divine power coming over him. This power was full of destructive power. He instantly broke through his own divine defense secret technique and tried to annihilate his own divine spirit layer by layer.

Click~

Emperor Nanguang seemed to hear the sound of his soul being shattered. He felt endless pain welling up in his heart, and his face became distorted.

The pain of annihilating the origin of the soul can definitely drive any saint crazy.

"Disperse!"

"Yun!" Emperor Nanguang suddenly roared, and his body instantly changed, turning into a majestic snow-white beast that was hundreds of millions of miles away, looking extremely holy.

It was the phantom that appeared when he attacked before.

And this is what his true form looks like.

"Rumble~" After displaying his true form, Emperor Nanguang suddenly felt that the speed of the annihilation of his divine soul had dropped sharply. A stream of strange power emerged from every corner of his body, replenishing his divine soul.

In just an instant, Emperor Nanguang returned to this state, staring intently at the white-robed figure.

It was as if he wanted to eat the other person alive.

"Die."

A flash of sword light passed by, and the head of the snow-white divine beast was chopped down hard. It was stained with blood, and the breath of life had obviously changed.

Wu Yuan's body refining deity and dharma body attacked at the same time.

"Damn it!"

"Forcing me to use my innate skills, you still want to kill me?" Emperor Nanguang was anxious and angry. His huge body was like a huge white cloud, drifting back.

Even if Wu Yuan's body-refining deity was stabbed hard, the impact on him would be very small, and his life breath would not change much.

"Knew it!"

"It is rumored that Emperor Nanguang's body is the 'Snow Cloud' that is born with eternal life. This is a strange life. At first glance, it seems to be a life of flesh and blood, but in fact it gathers and disperses invisible." Wu Yuan said secretly: "Even if it is blown away , and can be reorganized again and again.”

"Each part of their bodies contains a large amount of divine power, which is equivalent to the natural source of divine energy being several times stronger than other saints... It is difficult to kill."

This is also the reason why Wu Yuan Dharmakaya didn't take action at the beginning. He only used "Heart Dream Reincarnation" tentatively.

It was to verify the opponent's divine soul defense, and it turned out that Emperor Nanguang's divine soul defense was amazing.

But Wu Yuan's mental capacity is limited.

The first stage of "Destroying the Heart" continued with almost no impact on Emperor Nanguang.

So, if you use the second level and spend 50% of your mental energy, will you be able to severely damage or even kill the opponent?

Wu Yuan was not too sure.

"The Dharma Body has consumed 30% of the mental energy, and the use of the Samsara Sword has also consumed the corresponding amount of the source of the soul." Wu Yuan said secretly: "In a short period of time, I will not be able to restore the source of the soul."

The mental strength is easy to recover, and it can take dozens of days at most.

But it will take at least a million years to recover after consuming the source of the soul. This is the drawback of using the Samsara Sword.

Not good at long battles.

"If you don't use the Samsara Sword and just use the Chaos Spiritual Treasure to cast "Heart Destruction", the power will be too weak. It consumes 50% of your mental power and is far less powerful than the first level of the Samsara Sword." Wu Yuan's dharma body frowned slightly.

He was deeply aware of the power of Xuanhuang Daobao.

Without the Xuanhuang Daobao, it would be difficult to kill an ordinary saint, whether it is the Qi Refining Lord or the Dharmakaya.

But with the Xuanhuang Dao Bao, it can make most of the most holy and powerful people change their expressions.

"Now, even if we spend 50% of our energy to use the Samsara Sword to cast "Heart-Destroying", it is estimated that Emperor Nanguang will be severely injured, and he can continue to escape. This is not far from the Ocean of Darkness. Once he escapes into the Ocean of Darkness, I will destroy him." The probability of killing him is... no more than 30%." Wu Yuan thought about many possibilities in one thought.

Naturally give up killing the opponent.

In addition to the low probability of killing, there are two other aspects. First, seizing the Xuanhuang Dao Treasure is the key.

Secondly, retaining enough trump cards to deal with the Emperor of Heaven who may attack in the near future is more important than killing Emperor Nanguang.

Wu Yuan didn't know whether the Emperor of Heaven was coming or not.

However, with the lessons learned from the Blood Emperor and the Dream Emperor, we can only assume that the Heavenly Emperor is coming.

"Senior Tianxu reminded me that the Emperor of Heaven in the Domain of Destruction is very scary." Wu Yuan secretly said: "The Body Refining Lord is here. It's not a big deal if he falls. He can still be revived... but the Source Armor of Creation will be lost."

Between killing the enemy and saving his life, Wu Yuan naturally chose the latter.

"It's just Emperor Nanguang."

"In the future, there will be many opportunities to kill." Wu Yuan was very peaceful in his heart, not as fierce as he appeared.

"boom!"

"Boom!" "Boom!" Wu Yuan's body-refining deity attacked Emperor Nanguang crazily all the way.

The beating made Emperor Nanguang keep running away in embarrassment, especially Emperor Nanguang who was extremely afraid of the white-robed figure that had been at the end of the void.

finally.

After the two sides fought for half a day, they were getting closer and closer to the Ocean of Darkness.

"Wu Yuan, don't be proud."

"If you dare to kill my Immortal Court Saint in the Domain of Destruction, the Emperor of Heaven will not let you off easily." Emperor Nanguang roared angrily.

"Emperor of Heaven?"

"If he has the ability, let him find me first." Wu Yuan laughed loudly.

Plop!

Emperor Nanguang has rushed directly into the dark and vast black ocean, and quickly disappeared from the perception of Wu Yuan's body refining body and law body.

"You ran away so fast." Wu Yuan's body-refining deity stopped and did not continue to pursue him.

First of all, during the fight for most of the day, Wu Yuan seemed to be ravaging the opponent, but in fact the damage caused was limited. After all, the opponent's eternal heart was constantly recovering.

Second, the Ocean of Darkness, the endless black water is like an extremely terrifying super-large field, which will greatly suppress the attack power of both sides and cause even less damage.

If they fight like this, for tens of thousands of years, even Wu Yuan's body-refining deity may not be able to kill Emperor Nanguang.

"Just force him back."

call!

Wu Yuan's body-refining deity and dharma body turned into two streams of light, turned around and rushed towards the first huge star.

It will take half a day to rush back.

…

In the endless darkness of the sea.

"Didn't Wu Yuan come after him?" Emperor Nanguang stopped. He felt that Wu Yuan was not after him.

"Yes."

"He is probably also afraid of the Emperor of Heaven." Emperor Nanguang thought quickly: "Moreover, he probably wants to seize the treasure."

When he thought of the treasure, Emperor Nanguang's heart felt hot, and he was filled with hatred for Wu Yuan.

For this treasure, he followed the instructions of the Emperor of Heaven and spent many reincarnations of heaven and earth, exploring the vast areas of the Aurora Domain, the Ocean of Darkness, and every inch of the void for who knows how long.

Recently, I found a clue.

As a result, he happened to be bumped into by Wu Yuan.

"This treasure should be mine!" Emperor Nanguang gritted his teeth, but he did not dare to go back and fight with Wu Yuan.

The deaths of Holy Biaohuo and Holy Silver Moon had a great impact on him, and he was full of fear of Holy Sword Ming.

After all, he was the giant in charge of Xuanhuang Daobao.

"The ringing sword may not necessarily give you all your strength."

"He and Wu Yuan, with most of their power, should be on guard against the Emperor of Heaven." Emperor Nanguang was thinking.

suddenly.

"Huh? The Emperor of Heaven called me?" Emperor Nanguang's pupils shrank, and he immediately activated the token.

…

The deepest part of the Domain of Destruction, here, is far away from the Aurora Domain, the real core place.

Wow! Wow! Wow!

Wisps of black light filled with destructive aura were born in nothingness and then destroyed in an instant.

Countless black lights surrounded it, covering the endless void.

And in this void, there is a divine sword that spans the sky and the earth, as if it penetrates everything.

The sword body is completely black, with just a hint of blood, as if it has been contaminated by countless powerful life blood and will never be erased.

call!

There was an invisible wave, followed by a large amount of light gathering, and a shadow emerged.

It is the incarnation of Emperor Nanguang.

"Emperor of Heaven." Emperor Nanguang saluted respectfully, with a hint of awe in his eyes as he looked at the golden-robed figure in the void in the distance.

Just standing in that endless black light.

"Original sword time and space."

"This!" Even though Emperor Nanguang had seen it many times before, he was still filled with shock every time he saw it.

He also tried to set foot here, but the power of that random black light was comparable to the Holy Perfection level.

These countless black lights can easily annihilate him.

Only the Emperor of Heaven.

Seeing all the black light of destruction as nothing, I have been cultivating and comprehending in this space and time for a long time.

"I already know."

"I missed it." The Emperor slowly opened his eyes, his eyes calm, as if he had anticipated everything.

"Is it considered a leak?" Emperor Nanguang was stunned.

"You must be wondering why Wu Yuan didn't come earlier or later, but he came after finally finding the treasure." The Emperor of Heaven looked down at the incarnation of Emperor Nanguang.

His voice was gentle, but had unshakable majesty.

"Please ask the Emperor of Heaven to clear up the confusion." Emperor Nanguang said respectfully.

"It's not because of his luck, but because he came that this treasure was born." The Emperor said calmly.

"What? The treasure will be born as soon as he comes?" Emperor Nanguang was stunned.

Don’t you say this?

The lucky one was not Wu Yuan, but Emperor Nanguang.

"The original operation has its own rules." The Emperor of Heaven said calmly: "I can break through most of the secrets of the Domain of Destruction through the Original Sword... But after all, I have not yet mastered the Original Sword and cannot dominate the operation of the Domain of Destruction."

"So, I was able to deduce before that there is a treasure in the Aurora Realm and the Ocean of Darkness, but I can't figure out where the treasure is exactly, let alone how the treasure will be born."

"Then what should I do? Please give me some advice from the Emperor of Heaven." Emperor Nanguang said quickly.

"Don't worry!"

"The battle for the treasure depends on fate, but also on strength." The Emperor of Heaven stepped over and came to Emperor Nanguang's side, saying calmly: "Fate favors him."

"Then, use your strength to rewrite your destiny."

call!

The figure of the Emperor of Heaven suddenly disappeared, and the entire original sword time and space became completely silent.

"This? Emperor of Heaven?" Emperor Nanguang didn't understand at first, but then he realized: "Emperor of Heaven is already on the way."

"What I saw just now was just the incarnation of the Emperor of Heaven left here."

"I don't know how long it will take for the Emperor of Heaven to arrive."

…

At the end of the aurora domain, there is endless glow, which intersects with the ocean of darkness, forming a water curtain that blocks the sky and the sun.

Each purple star burst out with dazzling purple light.

Ordinary saints cannot break through this obstacle. In history, many saints have failed to achieve perfection here.

"Wow!"

A dazzling golden light suddenly shot out from the dark void.

This golden light was like a divine sword, exuding a destructive aura that reached the sky.

boom! Within reach of the golden light, all the currents in the dark ocean exploded, annihilated, and retreated.

"Wow!"

A purple star blocked in the center shattered under the golden light, turning into countless rubbles and impacting in all directions.

If there are other saints here, they will instantly understand where those broken purple stars in the Aurora Domain came from.

"Wu Yuan?"

Above the golden light, a golden-robed figure looked calmly into the dim void at the end of the aurora field.

"I haven't been looking for you."

"I didn't expect that you would take the initiative to go to the Domain of Destruction."

"This Xuanhuang Dao Treasure should be guided by the Ancestral Tower. But, the Ancestral Tower? What about the original rules?" The Emperor of Heaven controlled this golden light and swept everything.

His speed is getting faster and faster.

Ten thousand times the speed of light! Twenty thousand times the speed of light! Thirty thousand times the speed of light... Wu Yuan would be shocked if he saw it.

You must know that the time and space suppression in the Domain of Destruction is extremely serious. Even Wu Yuan's dharma body, which controls the origin of the time and space avenue, can reach up to ten thousand times the speed of light.

And at this moment.

The Emperor of Heaven is constantly breaking the constraints of the original rules and breaking the time and space suppression of the Domain of Destruction.

Simply unstoppable.

…

At the other end of the Aurora Domain, Wu Yuan didn't know that the Emperor of Heaven was coming.

Even if he knew it, he would not give up.

On top of that huge star emitting vast purple light, a majestic figure hundreds of millions of miles away was constantly trying to impact.

"Give me!"

"Broken!" With a roar, a dazzling sword light passed through the void, like a terrifying black and white thread, sweeping across the entire world in an instant.

"Wow!"

I saw a sudden invisible wave gathering on the ancient stars, and another burst of purple light suddenly burst out, meeting this thread of sword light.

Just when the two sides are about to collide.

"Chi~"

The nearby space and time was extremely strange, suddenly distorted, and the blade light deviated strangely, causing it to pass through the purple light.

"Wow!" The sword light thread suddenly struck the huge purple star.

"Rumble~" As if a knife struck a watermelon, the purple star suddenly shattered, and countless huge star fragments impacted in all directions.

"Peng~"

That ray of purple light with astonishing power swept across the world and hit Wu Yuan. Wu Yuan's towering body was directly bombarded and flew backwards, unable to stop at all.

The attack power of this purple light is absolutely comparable to the attack of Houtu Zuwu.

Wow~

The countless star fragments that followed the impact also caused Wu Yuan to be blown farther away.

After a while, Wu Yuan's body-refining deity finally stabilized his figure.

"It finally worked."

"After preparing for so long, I finally succeeded in using the dharma body to control time and space." Wu Yuan's body-refining deity's eyes were blazing as he stared at the end of the void, where the huge purple stars had been.

Wow!

The soaring brilliance spread in all directions, and an extremely powerful, majestic and mysterious wave was being released.

That is the aura belonging to Xuanhuang Daobao.

In the past four months, after driving Emperor Nanguang away, Wu Yuan tried again and again to refine his body and dharma body, but fell into the same predicament as Emperor Nanguang.

The auroras released by the stars were too powerful. Although Wu Yuan could easily withstand this level of attack, he would be blown away and could not get closer at all.

Wu Yuan had no choice but to calm down and start to figure out the laws of movement of the entire star.

but.

He never thought of using tricks to break through the obstacles of the aurora. After initially controlling the movement of the entire star, Wu Yuan directly used tricks.

Taking advantage of Dharmakaya's absolute control over time and space, he set up a formation and then made an attempt.

Direct success.

"It seems that this huge star is just an appearance. The reason why it can emit such terrifying aurora comes from this Xuanhuang Dao Treasure." Wu Yuan's body-refining deity soared into the sky.

call!

It's close as fast as lightning.

It was a sword that was pitch black with a faint white thread on the surface. It exuded an extremely violent and destructive aura, making it look extremely crazy.

This is the most evil and crazy among the Xuanhuang Daobao that Wu Yuan has ever seen.

"The sword-shaped Xuanhuang Dao Bao is good at material attacks." Wu Yuan reached out directly and grabbed the sword.

Buzz~

This sword was still trembling crazily, trying to break free from Wu Yuan's control, and the violent aura it exuded was enough to change the color of the ordinary saint.

But what kind of existence is Wu Yuan?

The powerful magic power, combined with the brilliance of his own way, easily suppressed the violence and destructiveness of the sword.

A direct imprint of life.

"Boom!" The moment after recognizing the owner, a large amount of information poured into Wu Yuan's mind, immediately making him understand the many functions of this Xuanhuang Dao Treasure.

"Soldiers of killing!"

"Extinction? Is this your name?" Wu Yuan murmured to himself, but his eyes were full of joy: "Haha! Okay! I am missing a Xuanhuang Dao Bao for material attack."

Although the attack of Qi Refining Master's heart weapon is terrifying, it cannot fight for a long time and can only be used to attack and kill.

As for material defense, the body-refining deity is very powerful. Now that he has an additional 'extinction sword', it is even more powerful.

"Guidance from Zuta."

"This Xuanhuang Dao Bao was made just for me." Wu Yuan showed a smile.

If we say that before, Wu Yuan's body-refining deity was only about fifty-fifty equal to Emperor Yantuo.

So.

Obtaining the Extermination Blade allowed Wu Yuan to truly have the confidence to surpass other giants in a very short period of time and compete with the Emperor of Heaven and Hou Tuzu Wu.

Material defense and material attack, with the two Xuanhuang Dao treasures in hand, it can be said that there is no weakness.

"destroy!"

"Ultimate destruction!" Wu Yuan branded the aura of life and was constantly understanding the source of the extermination knife.

After preliminary understanding, he could detect that the surface of the sword's source seemed to be pure destruction.

This reminded Wu Yuan of the way of the Emperor of Heaven.

"This Xuanhuang Dao Treasure was born in the realm of destruction, which is understandable." Wu Yuan said secretly: "With my own way, destruction and creation are intertwined, and I can still exert extremely powerful power when holding this sword."

With Wu Yuan's current strength, he can easily understand many mysteries and make preliminary applications.

certainly.

After all, this is an extremely powerful Xuanhuang Dao treasure. Do you want to use it completely? Wu Yuan had to spend a lot of time to constantly understand and ponder.

Finally, after understanding the source of the truth.

Only by combining the secrets of one's own way can one create the unique attack technique that best suits oneself and the Xuanhuang Dao Bao.

At that time, Wu Yuan's body-refining deity will reach its full strength.

"The treasure is in hand."

"Walk!"

Wu Yuan's body-refining deity put away his dharma body and immediately controlled the sword he had just received. The sword was shining brightly.

Soaring into the sky, he flew straight towards the Sea of ​​Thunder.

Wu Yuan has obtained the Xuanhuang Dao Bao, but Wu Yuan has no intention of continuing to explore. Moreover, he has already sensed a terrifying threat that is approaching.

Three thousand times the speed of light!

Eight thousand times the speed of light!

Ten thousand times the speed of light!

Thirteen thousand times the speed of light!

"Boom!" Wu Yuan's speed continued to surge.

"Breaking through 10,000 times the speed of light?" Wu Yuan held the sword and felt the invisible rules suppressing him. However, the light of the sword spread across the sky and easily broke through the constraints of the world.

Keep pushing the limits.

It was obvious that Wu Yuan's attack power had now surpassed the realm of the Holy Perfection and was constantly moving towards higher levels.

"Xuanhuang Dao Bao."

"Sure enough!" Wu Yuan's heart was surging, and he became more confident and continued to shuttle.

…

In the ninth year after Wu Yuan left.

boom!

A golden light tore through the heaven and earth and descended into the void. In addition to the golden robed figure above the golden light, there was also the true body of Emperor Nanguang.

"Emperor, he has captured the Xuanhuang Dao Treasure. I really don't dare to get close to him." Emperor Nanguang said with a bitter smile.

"Um."

The golden-robed figure stood there, his expression still indifferent, as if he was not moved by the birth of Xuanhuang Daobao.

He was sensing silently.

At this moment, in the perception of the golden-robed figure, the time and space that had been disrupted by Wu Yuan were quickly returning to normal.

Everything in the past is being constantly perceived and explored by the figure in golden robe.

finally.

The golden-robed figure saw the scene where the Xuanhuang Daobao was born, as if he were there in person. He could even sense the special aura of the Xuanhuang Daobao.

"Extinction?"

"It turns out it's you!" A trace of surprise flashed across the eyes of the golden-robed figure: "The treasure that has been hidden in this void is actually you?"

call!

The golden-robed figure's eyes regained their clarity.

"Emperor of Heaven? Us?" Emperor Nanguang couldn't help but ask.

"It's only been nine years."

"He can't escape, let's go." The figure in golden robe waved his hand, and the golden light under his feet spread across the sky and earth, flying in the direction Wu Yuan left.

"With Wu Yuan's speed, it will take at least four hundred years to leave the Realm of Destruction!"

"In three hundred years, it will be enough for us to catch up."

"hehe!"

"In the Domain of Destruction, Yan Tuo and Hou Tu teamed up and were defeated by me."

"This time, let me see how strong the original number one genius is." The golden-robed figure smiled, showing the confidence to control everything.

Even though Wu Yuan was in charge of Xuanhuang Daobao.

The Emperor of Heaven is still confident.